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From Antonio

 11th January 2008

Looks like a nice Dian bronze spear point.

Slightly lighter in weight than one might possibly expect.

Here are pics of the edge and interior structure.

But has an unusual property.

It's inflammable!!

A cold cast copy!

The weight is NOT all that different, because the piece has a lot of bronze powder mixed with the polymer.

The above information first  appeared on the yahoo antiquities science group.

Slightly out of date in sequence, but it seems the right place to put this!

From AK

26th March 08

It is known that we see more and more fake fibulas on Ebay in the last few years.

Is this Greek fibula fake or not???

Measure 8.5x 11,5 cm.

The fibula  is not cleaned or waxed by me.

The catchplate and pin is of iron. I have tested this with a magnet.

A little part of the green patina is removed by me to see the material.

The rings are of bronze.

I think there is a crack in the iron pin. See red arrow.

I bought this fibula on Ebay about 3 years ago.

The seller was a person from The Balkan and lived in Berlin.

With some acetone the "patina" comes off.

The patina is not original. 

I have heated the fibula and there was a big fire.

Expoxy resin.........!!!

Above pic : before

Below pic : after!

In the book series  "Prahistorische Bronzefunde" Part 14 book number 12 with title "Die Fibeln im Zentralbalkan" you can see more pictures of this kind of fibula.

Die Fibeln im Zentralbalkan

by Rastko Vasic

 Comprehensively illustrated catalogue of fibulae from Vojvodina, Serbia, Kosovo and Macedonia, with an introductory discussion on chronology and a brief discussion of each type. 140p, 70 pls (PbF XIV, 12, 1999)

 From Steve

22nd February 08

I just got the attached bronze piece in a trade from a reputable East Coast dealer. It's just under two inches long and there's a medium-sized hole(unseen) drilled into the back, between the rumps of the lion and the

stag, where something obviously was fitted in.

I have absolutely no idea what this could've been attached to. It doesn't feel like a handle, because it would be an uncomfortable grip, although that hole could conceivably be for the end of some sort of instrument's tang (not sure). The bottom is flat and the curve of the

area at the front appears to be an intentional contour, rather than a damaging bend. But what could it have contoured around?!

Have you ever seen anything like it before? Despite the somewhat soft details and provinciality, it still has a nice sense of action and animal anatomy.

Thanks for any light you care to shed.

Oh dear I've put it in the Is this a genuine piece section when I meant to place it in the "What is this?

I'm sure its's genuine  and indeed though "rough" is rather nice with a lovely sense of movement. I would have bought it too had I seen it.

A decorative fitting from a piece of furniture I'd say.

From rialtos

I wonder about a key handle, since the hole in the back would fit a rounded, peg-type insertion, rather than a blade or anything larger. But that wouldn't explain why the bottom would be essentially flat, rather than in the round.

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