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From Erwin

15th May 08

Found in Antwerp.

Looks familar....

What is it? Where from?

130mm high, 190mm across the rim.

It appears to be  brick covered with pottery!

I have asked an expert of Minoan art and it could be Minoan, there have been constructions in brick in ancient times,  in all I do not see what the exact material is, it doesn't look like the bricks we use today, it's more like vulcanic red sediment!
That's probably why someone said it's Theran or Cycladic.

An archeologist in Nubia said that it could well be ancient-Egyptian because they used anything and made all forms, then again some experts say it's not ancient or Egyptian.

 




 

 

15th May 08

 

To me  it's an Art-Nouveau piece.

We are used to see similar to this, glazed generally, in Barcelona.

A TL would do the wonder.

But Minoan, Theran, Egyptian in Antwerp sounds to me not easy to be found ( I mean, dig)

 

 From Erwin

18th May 08


I have contacted two Art-Nouveau experts who do not know it, on the other hand Manfred Bietak, sent me an email, just recently, with the possibility that it could be Mycenian or Minoan. 

I have had a emailconversation with an expert on Minoan art. She said that there was a period during the ArtNouveau, that the finding of the Cretian, Minoan world by Arthur Evans, was brought out,  however she could not determine the pot by picture.

As for Antwerp, a strange place to find antiquities,  though it must be said that the neighbourhood is quite multicultural and houses few local inhabitants.  It might be interesting to see that what the pots in Barcelona are like.

 

 

30th July 08

Perhaps a stubborn mule, but I still see it as modernist

 

es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagen:Pedrera%27s_Gaudi.jpg

 

www.gaudiallgaudi.com/images/Valeri%20C%20Comalat%20Post%20entresol.JPG

 

www.ceramique1900.com/pages_ceramiques_en/ceramique42.html

 

I see same spiral pattern as used by Gaudi and other modernist architects.

And I think to remember that inside the Hospital of Sant Pau, in Barcelona city, the nerves of the domes are covered with pieces that are like this (although glazed), but perhaps an ilussion..

Need to go and see

 

And taking in account that Antwerp and Brussels had also felt in love with Jugendstil, I still find that as the more likely answer....

Anyway, a thermoluminescence would say the period....

But for state of preservation, I would say also modern.

  



 

From Andrew

5th June 08

This  bottle is 10.8 cm or 4.25 inches tall approximately.

Is it ancient?

 






 From Peter S

17th June 08

Pretty sure it's not ancient.

Maybe European 19th century, "in the style of.."

 

 

 

AJ

16th June 08

Asks if anyone recognizes this type of pottery.

Broken one, 6", other 3.5".

 




 

 

From Rolf 

 

17th June 08

 Hello Bron,

This type of pottery turns up from time to time in auctions and isusually classified very loosely as "Pre-Islamic".

 

 IMO it dates to the latter part of the 2nd M BC and possibly originates from the areas
around the Caspian Sea (Azerbaijan/Turkmenistan/Khazakstan etc).

Couldn't say accurately without submersing too long in books and the archaeology of the area is not exactly well-published.

 

From Mr Cardon

17th June 08

 

Been going through a few books,looks very similar to pottery from Iran, Kalleh Nisar, 2700-2600BC.

 

 

 From Chema

27th July 08

Recently I have purchased this funerary stele apparently from North Africa. Any one have any more information about such?

 

 

 




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